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Nurses on the Front Lines/Captain Bligh

Jean Ross, president of the largest nurses’ union in the country, National Nurses United, joins Ralph to talk about how healthcare workers are not being protected from Covid-19. And Yale psychiatrist, Dr. Bandy Lee, comes back to update us on the Donald Trump’s mental pathology.

Jean Ross is an acute-care nurse and the President of National Nurses United, the largest union of registered nurses in the United States. National Nurses United aims to create a vision of collective action for nurses so that nurses are able to have more influence over the healthcare industry and a larger voice in public policy. 

“As far as the equipment that we need, they keep talking about a shortage. We are not sure how short they are. They are doing battlefield triage making nurses wear the wrong equipment or bring bandanas to work. And they say this is in order to save. Well when an employer tells us to save it’s all economical. I know they want the public to think they’re just trying to conserve supplies so there’ll be enough for how long this thing lasts. But it’s not. It’s money. We know that, because we see the equipment in some of the hospitals. It’s under lock and key, and they tell us we can’t have it.” 

Jean Ross, President of National Nurses United 

Bandy Lee is a forensic psychiatrist at Yale School of Medicine and an internationally recognized expert on violence. Dr. Lee is the President of the World Mental Health Coalition and has worked with various governments to implement violence prevention programs in prisons and the community. Dr. Lee edited the book “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President”. 

“[Donald Trump’s] destructiveness, if it were purely criminal, purely intentional that is, then it would go only so far. But the reason why it is critical to distinguish between what is pathological versus normal and healthy is that [pathology] ends up being far more efficient….  He ends up being almost exclusively destructive and never productive because pathology is so efficient it brings about damage and death. And it is far more effective than anything we can consciously, rationally plan.” 

Dr. Bandy Lee, author of “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President” 

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  1. Afdal Shahanshah says:

    If I listened correctly, Bandy Lee is claiming that Joe Biden’s blatant and obvious symptoms of dementia are just projection by Donald Trump? If so, this is massively damaging to her and her organization’s credibility. I likewise take issue with her matter-of-fact liberal establishment assertion that there was anything wrong with pulling US troops out of northern Syria, whose presence there was completely illegal in the first place. The US has been trying to topple another government it didn’t like in a criminal act of military aggression and she has a problem with its cessation? To be honest I don’t think she cares at all about the lives of “US allies” in northern Syria, nor could she even name them all without looking it up.

    Remember the very first time you had her on the show and she made a note of how inappropriate it was to diagnose outside of a controlled clinical setting? So much for that, huh? The last couple times she has been on the show she has come across as a total opportunist. I’m sorry to say this, but I think your obsession with Trump is allowing you to be manipulated by a careerist.

    • Stephanie Carrow, LCSW says:

      I agree. This time, it’s not just projection. It is appropriate for all of us to question the mental and moral fitness of any potential leader, regardless of our partisan leanings. As a mental health professional, I believe we may hold an even higher responsibility in that regard. And the duty to warn applies to Biden, too.

      It should also be clear to any mental health professional that Trump is a symptom of a much wider problem on both sides of the Corporate Party aisle.

  2. Donald Klepack says:

    Brandon Lee should be lose her license. We are not communist Russia:

  3. Jill Pearson says:

    Incredible show. My only question is what happened to your two routine questions a the end of your interview with Dr. Bandy Lee? What can people do about it? and Where can we get in touch with her? I see the links on the site here, but what can we do? Who has the authority to remove him for being mentally unfit especially in this COVID crisis?

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